Curse

Shadowspawn X · Jul 22, 2008, 06:53 PM // 18:53

Many times when I'm on my ranger my team makes me look good by calling the targets as they see key skills being activated. This allows me to hit "T" and make my interrupt. Then I hit shift+tab and I'm back on my original target. Team play makes it seem like you are everywhere but really its teamwork. Also as a tip you can hit f11 go into controls and assign shift + tab to a single key for more speed. Also know if your ping is not green you have to move closer to targets at the edge of your aggro or you will miss.

JR · Jul 22, 2008, 10:11 PM // 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

Many times when I'm on my ranger my team makes me look good by calling the targets as they see key skills being activated. This allows me to hit "T" and make my interrupt.

The only skills that you can hope to hit with this method are 2 second casts. You should be easily interrupting these anyway through looking for cast animations.

alen · Jul 22, 2008, 10:37 PM // 22:37

Quote:

Also know if your ping is not green you have to move closer to targets at the edge of your aggro or you will miss.

you should always be close to your targets, even with good ping....

Killed u man · Jul 23, 2008, 12:27 AM // 00:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by alen

you should always be close to your targets, even with good ping....

TY natural stride

thinkingofaname · Jul 23, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I see a lot of exaggeration here. I cant see how you can reflex any 1 second cast skills. Ranger interrupt takes 0.5 second, the flight time of a recurve bow at max range takes 0.4 second. The average human reflex is about 0.1-0.2 second. That already adds up to 1.0 second, plus your ping on top. Unless I'm missing something big, you either have to be really close to your target or predict/spam/luck to actually interrupt something. A combination of above is probably a more realistic picture of what rangerd actually do.

.Cookie. · Jul 23, 2008, 05:05 AM // 05:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingofaname

I see a lot of exaggeration here. I cant see how you can reflex any 1 second cast skills. Ranger interrupt takes 0.5 second, the flight time of a recurve bow at max range takes 0.4 second. The average human reflex is about 0.1-0.2 second. That already adds up to 1.0 second, plus your ping on top. Unless I'm missing something big, you either have to be really close to your target or predict/spam/luck to actually interrupt something. A combination of above is probably a more realistic picture of what rangerd actually do.

From Wiki: The cast time of ranger interrupts (when the arrow leaves the bow) is 1/4s and not 1/2s as the skill description says.

Vazze · Jul 23, 2008, 07:51 AM // 07:51

For reflex interrupts:
Monitor (LCD): 0.01 (0.01-0.03)
Human reflex: 0.20 (0.15-0.25)
Ping: 0.300 (0.15-0.45)
Interrupt activation time: 0.25
Arrow flight time: 0.25 at recurve half range (0.10 - 0.50 recurve at full range)

Total: 1.0s (0.65-1.45)

Your ping > positioning >>> good reflex

distilledwill · Jul 23, 2008, 07:55 AM // 07:55

I am just beginning to appreciate the genius of Magebane, having used it in RA yesterday and getting 3 10+ streaks in a row I see how a half decent Magebane ranger can dramatically affect the performance of the team and their opponents.

Im still working on my technique, I have a nasty habit of spammage but its not entirely popping one off for the hell of it, more its attempted prediction (I have been playing as a ranger for 2 years, but never really in PvP too much).

Luminarus · Jul 23, 2008, 08:37 AM // 08:37

I used to be able to reliably interupt 1 second & most of the time 3/4 casts, but then I moved house and get high ping. Im lucky with a 450-500 ping.

What im saying basically is that ping makes ALOT of difference. Positioning, knowledge and experience help, but without ping it dont matter how good you are, its not going to work.

the_deSKtructor · Jul 23, 2008, 10:52 AM // 10:52

Guess that all this people getting 1 sec casts on reflex are hackers or on steroid. You should be able to get a 1 sec cast by reflex with a ping of 250 or below.

thinkingofaname · Jul 23, 2008, 02:41 PM // 14:41

Thanks Cookie, I did not know about cast time of ranger interrupts. Guess you learn something new everyday. I think Vazze summerized the art of ranger interrupt quite well. There is nothing special about reflex interrupts, just need to have good ping and good position, everyone can do it.

Frank Dudenstein · Jul 23, 2008, 05:04 PM // 17:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_deSKtructor

Guess that all this people getting 1 sec casts on reflex are hackers or on steroid. You should be able to get a 1 sec cast by reflex with a ping of 250 or below.

I find that positioning is everything.

I play with 300 ping and have average (at best) reflexes. I find it easy to reflex 1sec casts if I am close to my opponent, but I have a really hard time at agro-bubble range. I have a hard time with 3/4 no matter what the range (assuming I know what I am interrupting and am not just twitching an activiation).

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

I am just beginning to appreciate the genius of Magebane, having used it in RA yesterday and getting 3 10+ streaks in a row I see how a half decent Magebane ranger can dramatically affect the performance of the team and their opponents.

Taking Res Sigs out of the game for your opponents is a gigantic advantage. All you need is a decent monk, and a damage dealer good enough to get a single kill ... you take out the res sigs and you will get 10 easily.

IllusiveMind · Jul 23, 2008, 09:48 PM // 21:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingofaname

Thanks Cookie, I did not know about cast time of ranger interrupts. Guess you learn something new everyday. I think Vazze summerized the art of ranger interrupt quite well. There is nothing special about reflex interrupts, just need to have good ping and good position, everyone can do it.

And also you need to know your enemy. You have to study your foe's build, weakness and advantage of it. It is also wise to keep track of your enemy casting order, positioning and a few more factors, including ping, reflex, even luck as mentioned before.

dilan155 · Jul 23, 2008, 10:36 PM // 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by distilledwill

I am just beginning to appreciate the genius of Magebane, having used it in RA yesterday and getting 3 10+ streaks in a row I see how a half decent Magebane ranger can dramatically affect the performance of the team and their opponents.

Im still working on my technique, I have a nasty habit of spammage but its not entirely popping one off for the hell of it, more its attempted prediction (I have been playing as a ranger for 2 years, but never really in PvP too much).

ya i agree about the "spamming" and sometimes i panic and spam interrupts trying to interrupt the next skill, also people consider is spamming if you interrupt like 2-3 skills in a row.

erk · Jul 28, 2008, 03:41 AM // 03:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by moriz

it has been nerfed once: 5e-->10e

In reality, with a decent amount of Expertise, the nerf was more like from 2e-->4e which means it is still pretty much spamable on recharge.

Animate · Jul 29, 2008, 03:37 PM // 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vazze

For reflex interrupts:
Monitor (LCD): 0.01 (0.01-0.03)
Human reflex: 0.20 (0.15-0.25)
Ping: 0.300 (0.15-0.45)
Interrupt activation time: 0.25
Arrow flight time: 0.25 at recurve half range (0.10 - 0.50 recurve at full range)

Total: 1.0s (0.65-1.45)

Your ping > positioning >>> good reflex

QFT
This goes for any online game, not just Guild Wars.
First comes your connection, your hardware and your settings, then comes that thing that actually is called skill/experience. As for interrupting things with a ranger, mesmer, or any class in fact, the first thing that matters the most is lag/ping/packetloss, etc.

So if you're playing that very balanced magebane ranger that requires awesome l33t skill, don't forget to have a good ping and to stand in your target's face. Other than that, it requires the same common sense as every other class does... battlefield awareness and all that terribly leet crap. There's nothing more to it, except that since you can spam unblockable interrupts every few seconds at no costs, you can be even more skilled and fire a few preemptive shots every now and then which are sure to catch something about time, too.

Tyla · Jul 29, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank

I play with 300 ping and have average (at best) reflexes. I find it easy to reflex 1sec casts if I am close to my opponent, but I have a really hard time at agro-bubble range. I have a hard time with 3/4 no matter what the range (assuming I know what I am interrupting and am not just twitching an activiation).

To be honest, I can full-range one second casts even if I'm hitting the skill I need to hit. The main dependance for me is ping.

As for 3/4's, I'm with you there.

Snow Bunny · Jul 29, 2008, 04:24 PM // 16:24

With ping 150 or below, I can reflex 3/4s pretty easily.

Reflexing 1s on 383ms is a nightmare though.

Legendary Shiz · Jul 29, 2008, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by holymasamune

Some people are more tactical and wiser than others with their interrupt spams. That's mostly what interrupt rangers come down to.

This is a very true statement. Predicting can be classified as spamming seeing as it's a came of probability more so than straight up reflexes. If targets are running and then you see them stop moving, chances are that's going to be for a reason. Interrupting off of KD's (wars mainly do this, still something to watch for though). Mainly try to keep down the important stuff (Aegis, DA, stuff that doesn't let your team score kills).

Was also about to say that some rangers use ints as a way to spread poison quicker, but Yue got to it already.

Seamus Finn · Aug 01, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Legendary Shiz

Was also about to say that some rangers use ints as a way to spread poison quicker, but Yue got to it already.

I generally think too much emphasis is put on "reflexing 3/4s". If I have a ranger on my team that can keep 3-4 guys poisoned and hit all the easy stuff(aegis, DA, Hum Sig, Diversion) really consistently, I am pretty sure I have one of the best stand rangers in the game. Unless maybe if I am running some zero pressure spike build, but then why would I be running a ranger anyways?